DJ Deals - Beanie Sigel Vs Jay-Z (Death Of A Dynasty)

I dont think he's the G.O.A.T. either but to say lyrically he's "very weak" shows you have a very limited knowledge of hip-hop...

are we forgetting when he cried after ether?? beans is hard he dosnt need jay z jay dropped all of philly freeway peddi and beans and beans has been there since day one j is a beast but deff not the goat just wait till beans comes out with closure itll all be settled.

Jay is the greatest of all time!!!! fuck pac! dat nigga goofy!!! THUG LIFE??? who is dis nigga John Cena! neway jay and beans aint even beefin for real foreal if u listen to the shit beans says hiself that jay is like his brother and he feel that he had to sit em down and talk to em bout how he feel and he still got love for em and still claimin ROC dem nigga aint beefin! dat hit yall be talkin up here be booty mayne and my nigga i wanna see u make a list of who betta then jay "goofy ass?" for real, make a list my nigga. i wanna see dat shit.

remember the guy that ethered him

John Cena? ARE YOU SERIOUZ??? When Pac was doin his thang John Cena was probably still fighting in pool halls for a couple of dollaz. THUG LIFE was'nt just a thing, it was a MOVEMENT! Do your research you ignorant mothafucka! that shit goes from inside prison walls to the 1 million blackman march! You should question ROC-A-FELLA cuz thats some crackkker shit right there homeboy! I see you just created your account less then a day ago just to add retarded azz comments like this! Hop off Jiggaz grapes and recognize game you dumb muthafucca!!!

yo PAC IS A FUCKIN FAGGOT!!!! fuckin ring in his nose ass nigga wut part of the fuckin game is that???? WUT THUG DOES THAT SHIT??? JAY go stupid hard and and it aint even bein on da nigga nutz u gotta give respect where respect is due...i feel all westcoast niggas is GARBAGE NEWAYS DOO-DOO ASS NIGGAS!!! and where wuz the movement???? the only person i heard yellin that dumb shit wuz him!!! HES FUCKIN WACK FACE IT! DUMB ASS!

Fool you either a lil young late 90's baby who dont know shit about shit or just a whiteboy stuntin like a nigga talkin a buncha noize! Na na you know what fuck that! I take that back cuz theres whiteboyz in here with way more knowledge than your stupid azz! You just an idiot thats all.

wayne,cham$,common,luda,cass,trae,ugk,joe budden,big l,pun,snoop,playa fly,there go a list nigg.......nigga u dumb & and no nothing about hip hop ,pac or anything else creative,thug life was some real isht boy,i mean i feel prone to talk crazy to yo ass 4 saying sum dumb isht like that ,jay aint no slouch ,but he aint the greatest by a long shot, i will continue to say jay ,nas ,& a alot of mf's wouldnt have been isht if pac & biggie hadnt died certainly if pac hadnt,pac use to talk about them niggaz like lil nigg8s, nobodies isht like they wasnt worth mentioning,(R.I.P.BIGGIE BUT LETS NOT FORGET PAC WAS GOING N ON BIGGIE HARD THE ISHT WASNT EVEN FAIR IF U LOOK BACK AT IT HE WAS DESTROYING A LEGEND) all these nigg's followed in pac foot steps from the movies ,double disc,and even they work ethics the nigg has put out more albums dead than some supposely lengends have & the isht sound better and would be better if they stop letting em and dre, u know mfs pac wouldnt have f'k with if he was living do the albums..get daz or corrupt on that isht..

Another day in paradise*()* they say pac is the best, i say hmmmphhh, I respect pac and he is one of the best and its messed up how he left the game before his time, but like Jay-z says himself im in competition with ghost.... big L is another crazy lyricist who neva got to show his potential and im a fan of his as well but at the end of the day Jay is the one we got to see flourish into a ceo, buying teams, being incorporated with bringing the nets back to brooklyn, this is crazy shit for a nicca from the hip hop game who started as just a rapper to accomplish, I mean at the end of the day who knows what Biggie wouldve been doing if he was still breathin or big L or Pac but Jay is living so i feel hate the rappper but respect the accomplishment Stay zooted with the chinkyeyez daily, kool aid Kush poppin in the VA!!!!

Another day in paradise*()* I dont see how if Jay dont talk about murkin someone or since he never went to jail how does this affect his status of a artist. Andre 3000 dont talk about murkin nicca's but he's one of the top lyracist and rappers out, I feel you there might be other rappers such as beans that come harder from a street perspective but you dont have to come like that to be nice.. at least I never new that was a requirement to be successful in the rap game. IE "Drake" not a huge fan of dude but he got his rankings up and dude doesnt have a inch of street in him but people still take to him as a artist. Elaborate your point for me when you get a chance "We yell Geronimo, when the marijuana's blown"

hovas got the flow and style or the best hes not the best drakes only here becuase hes writing weezy. jay z is not a good person to have for a boss. he will use you for his own betterment and wont help you ie young chris bleek?? bleek was with him since day one and he didnt do anything for him. peddi crakk the whole state property crew was on cockafella and he turned his back on all of them. your right hovas one of the best in the rap game i love hova but hes a bitch. just a bitch he cried and called nas to apologize after ether. kayo had an album called blueprint he rode biggies coat tails and was luck that hard knock life was a hit. hova is the brett farve of rap basicly hes too old he needs to retire. the bleprint 3 is fire i love it but hovas changed hes not the same he sold out. hes not hungry anymore.

Another day in paradise*()* Jay does seam to be changing and then some of us will say "could you blame him" he's a walking icon no matter if you like him or hate him but its starting to look as though Jay doesnt have respect for another rapper or pier b/c he doesnt see them effecting his doe flow and i do agree when i hear your say the picture that were getting of Jay right now makes him look grimey as shit, but b/c im not in the inner circles of Jay or Beans or anyone in the Roc I cant call the beef right now, it will take Jay to come out and explain himself cuz if not to hear Young Chris and Neef were getting i think Beans said $1200 or $1400 to split, thats bull shit, but see Jay aint said shit so nicca's can only speculate so cant call it but i feel where you comming from

but is he thee goat?, no... i don't think you could say one guy is the goat there are people that are eligible for the discussion, then it gets down to opinion, what do you like, lyrics, marketing, business savvy, beats, best selling ext... now if you want to get into fucking people over... i think this discussion has been had on here before, rappers fuck each other over, the music industry does period really... we could replace jay-z's name with about ten other legend artists and see how they fucked people over.

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Well he needs to stop making music, he should have stayed retired, he's just scared that somebody BETTER than him is going to come along, which there are alot of better rappers that are 10 times better then him. Come on you got to admit that this latest album was not good at all. I found 1 or 2 songs that were worth listening two. Jay-z's time has come and gone.

i mean yea dats wat im sayin. he ain wat he use to be. jay-z is one of them rappers dat was good back in the day. the rap game has changed. why u think ppl like krs-one hasnt come out with nuthin in a long ass time. ppl dont wanna hear no old rappers talk bout how they getin old and shit, lol. but i bet if pac or biggie was still alive you think they still be makin music? naw cuz everyone goin to say how wack they is and all dat bullshit. jay-z will imo one of the greates rappers he made rap wat it is 2day. so he ain wack, the songs he make maybe wack but dats not wat ppl are sayin.

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if you haven't heard this you need to cop it in my opinion.. puts people to shame even in his old age.

The old rappers had all the best music, these cracker jack rappers today need to be ashamed of themselves. I know they don't listen to there own music because if they did they would rethink and say "man i really need to put the weed down". Bring back old skool.

The only thing that made Jay-Z popular was the fact that he steals lyrics from rappers who he dick ride before they died (i.e. Biggie and Big L)if it wasn't for them he would've been a nobody. Do your research and listen to their lyrics and you'll see for yourself. If anything he lucked out! Also on a lyrical level Jay-Z is NOWHERE and i mean NOWHERE close to being legendary. The only thing Jay-Z did to todays rap was corrupt its contents with stupid lyrics of money, hoes and cars... [ Waving automatic guns at nuns since 1989 ]

Im pretty sure thats not what made Jay what he is today. I mean, do you even listen to him?? Lol. Cuz im pretty sure youhave no clue what your talkin about. Do you think the people you mentioned (biggie and big L) would have even worked with Jay back in the day if they thought he was whack? And Jay is already legendary whether you like it or not. And if you think Jay corrupted todays game....then why do you still even listen to music???

Another day in paradise*()* Im glad you posted this before the end of the work day sums it all up. The people that say Jay is wack the person the refer to as better has nothing but respect for the big homie Jay. True shit!!!

I did listen to Jay yes back in his Reasonable Doubt days which in my opinion was his only good album. Now with the statement that you just said " Do you think the people you mentioned (Biggie and Big L).." just goes to show how much you know about Hip Hop. I never said that Biggie and L was on his dick. What i did say was that Jay was on their dick. If you mean to tell me that if L or Biggie were still alive that Jay would be this big? Ha you must be on crack. The reason why i still listen to music is mainly because of artist like Nas(which made your precious Jay cry after ether) Eminem (which murdered him in jay's own song), Cambatta, Cormega, The Wu and others who keep Hip Hop pure...[ Waving automatic guns at nuns since 1989 ]

Umm, i never said that you said Biggie and Big L were on Jays dick. Lol so you dont know how to comprehend either. its cool tho. and yeah, im 100% sure jay would be doin his thing if they were still alive. and get the fuck outta here with "i listen to the pure hip-hop" bullshit. ole wanna be revolutionary ass. your not special cuz you listen to them and dont like the direction hip hop went.

Just because I'm proving your thought process wrong doesn't mean you have to go ahead and act like a tough guy and start cursing up a storm, I'll keep this civil. You obviously stated that they wanted to work with him because he wasn't whack (I'm paraphrasing here) so obviously the underlying thought was that they wanted to work with him because he was the shit when in fact it was the other way around. Now if you read the comments posted up the majority of the people here will agree with me and say that Jay-Z is garbage and that his lyrical abilities do not par with the majority of the rappers out there. Now let me school you for a quick second. I'm not the only one who doesn't like the direction Hip-Hop went. Artist like KRS-One, Nas, The Wu, Talib, Mos Def all these dudes feel the same way including the majority of the posters here. You're a fan of Ringtone Rappers it's cool, you probably do the superman in the shower too. Just don't get the lyrical abilities of these dudes twisted.... [ Waving automatic guns at nuns since 1989 ]

Haha, ok we can keep this "civil" as you would put it. I said "do you think artists like biggie and big l would work with jay if they thought he was whack, i did not say that jay was the shit and thats why they wanted to work with him. so OBVIOUSLY you should stop acting like your a mind reader or something cuz newsflash man, your not. you dont know my thought process or the point i was gettin at so step off lol. and personally, i dont care about the "majority" of ppl posting that jay is whack. Ill dare to be different and say that hes not whack. lyrically and business wise, hes one of the best. maybe not today, but back in the day, jay would wreck songs, he still does, just not in the same manner as he used to. and your OBVIOUSLY not the only one who doesnt like the direction hip hop went, trust me i dont like it either, so your not schooling anyone. especially not me. all this bubble gum soulja boy, and lame ass gucci and oj and all that jerkin and bullshit, i hate that. i will NEVER listen to it. its horrible. i listen to all those people you listed, at the same time though i also listen to jay, and feel like he is one of the best in the game.

Spoken like a true hater. How many beats now days are sampled from old songs?? How many movies are remakes from old movies?? If you make a song with an Isley Brothers guitar riff is that stealing or givin props that you like that song and wanted to rap on it?? I dont think Jay-Z saying something that Biggie or Big L already said is anything more than J remembering his hommies and reminding us what they said. Jay made Blueprint and the 99 problems song but Krs-One wasnt anywhere saying Jay stole anything from him, because krs knows thats J does it out of respect. This shit is all opinion anyways, if someone thinks Jay is the greatest of all time then so be it, Scarface is my G.O.A.T. but I dont think hes THE GOAT just my GOAT, and I think Ice Cube makes better music than Pac but Pac is more lyrical for sure. Like someone else already wrote you can have this agrument in all areas, Jordan or Kobe, Ali or Tyson, Dan Marino or Bret Farve, bud light or miller light.........................................so just let people have there own opinions and like what you like and dont fuck with what you dont!

You said the KEY WORD back in the 90's when he rode jazz's back.

Another day in paradise*()* Besides everyone having personal opinions on who they think is the best you have to revert to stats *(like in sports)* Regardless if you like or hate Jordan at the end of the day his mvp count and championship count make him the best statistically so in rap who has sold more records and made more money and become more of a icon in there music career than Jay Now if people come back at this post with "fuck Gay-z" then i guess you dont get it but honestly if anyone can show me who's sold more records (overall) and has more money than Jay Enlighten me plzzz! "Sour Diesel, kool aid kush and che guerrera in a blunt we call that the smokers melting pot"

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