Kanye Vs. Curtis - Who Will Win The Showdown Sept. 11th?

Kanye West / Graduation
56% (13846 votes)
50 Cent / Curtis
44% (10687 votes)
Total votes: 24533
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EntranceKing's picture

Evidence!

Peep this! http://www.rapgodfathers.com/content/view/3750/165/ 50 Cent has nearly the double the money to his name as Kanye. "It doesn't pay to be nice, but it's nice to be paid." - Fabolous

There's been so much

There's been so much bullshit said regarding this topic, but I'm not gonna respond to all of it. The fact that this debate is even happening is a clear cut example of why some feel Hiphop is dead. Do any of you consider yourselves hiphoppas? If you do, I beg to differ. A real hiphoppa doesn't even care about who outsells who. Its about the creativity of the artist. Somebody said 50 is businessman...there enlies the problem. There's too much business involved and not enough creativity. Does anyone know, the reason Curtis got pushed to 9/11 is cuz Interscope didnt feel it was good enough to put on the shelves? This question of who will outsell who, would not have even come up if 50 had put together somethin decent enough for Jimmy to approve. The cd would have dropped in July. Someone said early on in this debate that they can't fuck with Ye cuz he keeps changin his style...uhhh thats what creativity does. It takes you out of the box. You're afraid of tryin somethin new cuz you're in the box with the rest of the non creative people like 50. in closing...there's 2 types of people who buy 50's cd's: stupid little girls and thug wannabes who think they have to be hard to impress those stupid little girls. And neither one of those types are educated consumers. No real hiphoppa nor a lover of music is buyin that shit. There's nothing creative about anything he does or says. He's just like a corporation. He has a product to sell and he's gonna do whatever it takes to sell it. And btw, he doesnt care about any of you just like he didnt care about any of the crackheads he sold crack to. You're no different than them in his eyes. Open yours. I'm buyin Graduation. I'm downloadin Curtis.

M!$TA

M!$TA M!$CH!£VoU$ JDillaGent..... do i consider myself a hiphoppa? erm explain the definition of what a 'hiphoppa' is please id love to hear what your gonna say. creativity isnt about shit nowadays just cuz someone spits some bars over a strange beat isnt being creative. in rap/hiphop its about the beat you spit over, if kanye or 50 or any rapper was to spit over a rock or drum and bass beat would you still call it a creative hiphop tune? i wouldnt cuz its not a hip hop beat. hiphop is about the beat - RAP is about lyrics. and by the way i am well educated im no thug or wannabe thug and i'll still be buying 50's album - and borrowing kanyes to upload onto my laptop. another thing... "he doesnt care about any of you just like he didnt care about any of the crackheads he sold crack to" do you honestly think kanye or any other rapper cares about any of us? they care about the MONEY and thats it. what made you say that i dont know. 1 truthful point you made though was a real hiphop listener doesnt care about who outsells who. i dont give a shit who wins, why shud i give a fuck? its not gonna effect anything in my life? you people take this too serious man just listen and appreciate the music being made. or make your own if u people think u can do any better.

dude you sound like somebody

dude you sound like somebody who was was born in the late 80's early 90's..."hip hop is about the beat - RAP is about the lyrics"...are u serious? to make a comment like that assures me that you have no idea what Hiphop is. for the Refinition of a Hiphop and a what a Hiphoppa is, please go to www.templeofhiphop.org. I'm asking you to do that out of concern because if you call yourself a hiphoppa and these are the things you believe, then you have much to learn about my kulture. as for the "not caring" comment I made... The point was Kanye cares more about givin The People G.O.O.D. music whereas 50 doesn't, thus his cd being pushed back 2 times for not having anything on it that Jimmy was comfotable with releasing. and just a little history lesson...one of the top producers in the History of Hiphop, Rick Rubin,(due to your age you may only know him for produceing Jay Z's 99 Problems), the partner of Russell Simmons who helped start Def Jam, produced rock tracks for Run-DMC and Beastie Boys. Are you gonna tell me Run-DMC and Beastie Boys aren't Hiphop? Not to mention Run-DMC covering an Aerosmith tune you may have heard of called Walk This Way. So the answer to this question "if kanye or 50 or any rapper was to spit over a rock or drum and bass beat would you still call it a creative hiphop tune?" is an emphatic yes. Study your lessons. Hit that site. Enlighten yourself. Hiphop is more than music.

M!$TA M!$CH!£VoU$ ok! u

M!$TA M!$CH!£VoU$ ok! u made some good points there i wasnt thinking THAT far back when u mentioned those tunes but i still wouldnt class the beastie boys as hiphop i would class them as rappers though. but in all the years iv ben listening to rap iv never heard a rap artist say "im a good hiphoppa" or people say "i like so n so because they are good hiphoppas!" they say i like so n so because they can RAP. so rap IS about lyrics. oh yea i went to the site u mentioned and it does not give no true definition of a hiphoppa - but from what i read a hiphoppa is just someone who is 100% dedicated, likes/listens to hiphop genre. quote from site - ("Our belief in ourselves as a specialized group of human beings (Hiphoppas) insures Hip Hop's actual preservation.) n by the way i dont/never did call myself a hiphoppa - i just like the music thats made in the hip-hop genre.
EntranceKing's picture

LOL! RAP is lyrics he

LOL! RAP is lyrics he says! Rap is the same stupid shit over and over. Name one rapper who doesn't rhyme about his rims, his hos, his money, the ice on his neck, how the candy paint looks on his car, how good patron tastes, or what kind of clothes he wears. That's all RAP is. Same shit over and over. And thats all they will rap about. I listen to it just as much as anyone else, but it's a damn shame you don't the know the difference between rap and hip-hop. Hip-Hop is actually an art. It's when you hear the lyrics and then it makes you think about what the artist just said. Artists like Common, AZ, Bone Thugs, Talib Kweli and etc. Listen what they say compared to 50 Cent or Wayne or Jim Jones has to say. They have a real message and if you listen to it, then you will get it. "It doesn't pay to be nice, but it's nice to be paid." - Fabolous

M!$TA M!$CH!£VoU$ You

M!$TA M!$CH!£VoU$ You what?.... so your telling me NONE of these rappers have never spoke about none of the the things you just mentioned in any of there tune? listen to the chorus in kanye's tune brand new then think about what u just said.
EntranceKing's picture

1. First and foremost, fuck

1. First and foremost, fuck Kanye. I hate that lil pussie ass cat. I won't be getting Graduation either in stores or downloading it. At best, I'll get the instrumentals and record some mixes of my own. 2. ALL artists, whether hip-hop or rap, talk about the things I had mentioned. But there is a difference between the content. There is a difference between talking about how big and how much your rims cost, versus some one saying how rims are materialistic and how you should be investing in real-estate instead. Hip-Hop makes you think. Rap is just for making money. 3. READ-A-BOOK, LOL!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rN2VqFPNS8w "It doesn't pay to be nice, but it's nice to be paid." - Fabolous

whoopsie!!

EntranceKing wrote:
LOL! RAP is lyrics he says! Rap is the same stupid shit over and over. Name one rapper who doesn't rhyme about his rims, his hos, his money, the ice on his neck, how the candy paint looks on his car, how good patron tastes, or what kind of clothes he wears. That's all RAP is. Same shit over and over. And thats all they will rap about. I listen to it just as much as anyone else, but it's a damn shame you don't the know the difference between rap and hip-hop. Hip-Hop is actually an art. It's when you hear the lyrics and then it makes you think about what the artist just said. Artists like Common, AZ, Bone Thugs, Talib Kweli and etc. Listen what they say compared to 50 Cent or Wayne or Jim Jones has to say. They have a real message and if you listen to it, then you will get it. "It doesn't pay to be nice, but it's nice to be paid." - Fabolous
"I aint talking fast, you just listening slow" to quote the best rapper alive. lil wayne is hip hop,rap,and r&b. ok talib,common, etc... can they do what lil wayne does? no, but i can assure you that lil wayne can talk about the same topics common and talib touch and lil wayne has. have you listened to dedication 2?drought 3? most lil wayne haters have not listened to his music entirely. Georgia bush was incredible he put some great lyrics in that song. Ok i love talib,common,etc, but there is so much depression i can take! i love listening to what they have to say: "fuck the system!!" I UNDERSTAND, but people dont want to hear that all the time!!some advise sir... go back and listen to lil wayne and you'll realize that some of his lyrics are way above that of common and them... even if he says a bunch of bullshit there will be one line that lil wayne spits that will make up for everything. AND TRUST ME he (lil wayne)always stays on topic in every song!again... "I aint talking fast, you just listening slow" elevate your mind. its 2007.

the dude that said about 50

the dude that said about 50 had more of the white population who had his albums..nah they have his old albums when he wasnt singin and shit but his new shit even got them dissin on him "GGGG-UUUNNNNOOTTT" -The Game

wtf the majority of the ppl

wtf the majority of the ppl here say that 50 will sell more albums cuz its more popular but they themselves are gonne buy graduation... i personally think kanyes will sell more cuz more females listen to kanye AND he actually is MORE popluar internationally then 50 at the mom. see kanyes smart... hes heavily aiming at the azn market with all the jap cover-art and his new clip recorded in tokyo. i live in germany and kanyes single is about as big as 50's but from what i hear and read most ppl are gonne buy graduation. im gonne buy both cuz both gonne be sick
DjDb25's picture

Im crackin up

I do not understand this so called "battle"...i dont even know why people listen to kanye...Only song i ever listened to of Kanye is "cant tell me nothin"..and that i only listen to the remix...the beats hard but kanye??...kanye???..wow...id rather listen to rnB the rest of my life...I know theres always speculation over 50...but 50s makin shit that sells...wouldnt say hes a hard rapper, or his lyrics is hard...but he does what he does...and hes the highest paid in the game...and to compare him to kanye is jus stupid...Kanye thinks he jesus....no respect for him...and for yall idiots arguin on here...talkin bout come to such and such city and well fight...grow up...us grown men got better things to do...
Bluemercury's picture

T.I., Diddy, Ye, Jigga & Fif!!!!!

Didn't Fif make G-Unit Radio 22? Didn't Havoc say fuck T.I.? Why am I typing like this? Just what this video and then judge for yourself... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1l8feRQBv8
VecWun's picture

you got to admit

Its a close call with these too i mean the 50 sells records kanye does too but the fan base will buy 50 over kanye in the end because of the amount of club jionts and R&B type joints that may be on 50's album. kanye rather do some wild shit like have a guest apearance by yo yo ma or some wild shit like that 50 is a hustler he gonna sell or die tryin. I like kanye over fifty personally cause his beats are rediculous the skits make me laugh and i dig what hes tryin to do. But when i want to drop the windows and bump the system and have the block bumpin im gonna pop in 50 over Ye and when you got to the clube your gonna hear 50 over Ye...for every knay club joint there like 3 for fifty so who are we talkin about that buyin this music ( im not gonna go inot color) Cats thats watchin videos or in the clubs or listening to main stream radio.....tru hip hop in on the under ground on the mix taps and in the streets that doesnt mean that those are the people buying the music and ringtones personally forreal i aint buyin shit i dont got the money for them and there gonna have enough sales with out my little drop in the bucket so i rather get it ahead of time threw my "SOURCES" and enjoy the content untill the time frame when a brotha got enough in the bank to start buyin music in the stores until then 50 will sell more ye will have very respectable numbers and possibly hotter shit overall Be Easy
coolman0704's picture

I Think, 50's Album will be

I Think, 50's Album will be better, coz he has working with Dr.Dre, Eminem & Timbaland... Take a look to my Black Music Blog http://hfm.cx.la

ima go buy kayne's album.

ima go buy kayne's album. fuc currrrtttiisssss. even though kanye wack but he nice on dem beats. stick 2 da beats son. darealsteve-o

50's greatest album was

50's greatest album was Power Of A Dollar....everything since that has been soft and him singin the hooks (which people ignore that he dissed Ja Rule for) which killed him. I'm white (been white for 29 years) and I haven't liked anything of his since that CD...Real recognize real, but real hip hop heads don't BUY music, the D/L it and 50 knows that...so 50 will more than likely out-sale Kanye...
triggertreach's picture

agreed fully

definatly agree with that , power of the dollar was easily his best tt

is u muthafuckin stupid?, 50

is u muthafuckin stupid?, 50 been singing since power of the dollar check ghetto qua'ran, slow doe and also dude had enough songs before that on witch he sang.. so check ya logic since u couldnt even get the name of the album written down right. and listnen up i dont give a fuck who white around here, yall people pretendin like no white people chill with black people in the hood, i seen enough of em' so keep ya racism to yaself. that sales shit applies to the people in the big houses and shit, not white or black people. enough fake black/white people on this website pretendin like they black or pretendin like they live in a ghetto. and thats what its about, not about the white majority, but about the majority of rich people outside of the ghettos that buy cd's, racist assholes
Two-One's picture

Baha

Baha, watch, Kenny Chesney...the country singer will outsell BOTH of them. I know this shit is about them, but watch this dude beat'em both. His last 4 albums have been #1 on release. Baha. But if I had to choose, I'd say 50. Good evening, enjoy yourself. Its a joyous occasion you employee yourself. Good evening.

EXACTLY!

I Think, 50's Album will be Submitted by coolman0704 on Fri, 08/24/2007 - 4:17pm. I Think, 50's Album will be better, coz he has working with Dr.Dre, Eminem & Timbaland... coolman07 says that he thinks 50s album will sell more because of his producers and his guests on his cd. This is provin my point of if someone buys his album there not buyin it for him or w/e...they could be loyal fans to dre or em or even timbaland and just support everything they do...honestly i say fuck 50 and all this bullshit...u heard 50 talkin shit and showin no respect to kanye sayin how he should move the date of his release...i mean u dont hear kanye talkin shit about how 50 should move his date or anything like that cuz kanye has respect for his competition and the game itself...I mean if 50 thinks hes the shit and is gonna refer to gettin shot 9 times and havin a near death experience then he can shut the fuck up because kanye was in the car crash which he could have died as well...its just kanyes was an accident and 50's was that he had someone who hated him enough to kill him and got lucky enough to live...like why even talk about it and think ur the shit cuz u took 9 bullets and didnt die...u got lucky but u should just be happy to be alive instead of promotin ur shit...yea yea i know 50s lyrics used to be the shit but i could never stand his 9 bullets shit...so the fuck what u got shot in the hood for runnin ur mouth when theres people in iraq riskin there lives to protect the country and shit...kanye will outsell 50 because just look at the votes plus the guy who gave statistics on the early sales and everyone who says they think 50 is gonna win says that there gonna buy kanyes album tho...im reppin kanye cuz he talks about some real shit and the only people he's dissin is the president which is on some real issues....SO BUY GRADUATION AND SUPPORT THE REAL ARTISTS "50 can suck my dick"-The Game
BC BUDS DA BEST's picture

hmm

i just got both albums and i have to say i dont mind 50's, its alot better then his previous shit. i think i kept 1-2 songs off kaynes cd and deleted the rest lol, and kept bout less then half of 50's album since most of it has bin leaked, but 50's beats r way better then kayne's i bet 50 will win, but that dont mean shit.........."Only Sucka's measure skills on the length of they dough" - JIN
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Here ya go!!!!

World Wide and Locally Respected, I'm Online All The Time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Wow I've heard Kanye's champion song and to me it murders all of 50's tracks that I've heard. I mean sometimes Kanye can chat breeze but overall he's records take me some where. But 50 seems like he's been using the same formula since the massacre album!!!!!!! Just seems like he ain't really trying any more. Ayo technology and I get money are the songs that really stand out to me so far, that's it.

Prediction based off a listen..

Both are weak. 50 sings the same old shit about his gats and gunholes. His new addiction to pussy makes half the cd love anthems. Kanye sings about his shopping habits and how he still wants more money. His beats will be his usually high pitch singing in the back with strings and drums, which can be enjoyable dont get me wrong. Thats my opinion that ill still agree with on sept 11 when the cds are re-released as retail..
nobullshit's picture

Kanye Bad Curtis good

50 album is good only song don't like is ayo technology playing graduation now and only songs i've liked so far is barry bonds and everything i am

already got both C.D.'s 50 =

already got both C.D.'s 50 = wack ass beats kanye = wack ass vocals i don't really like either of them to be honest....

been listening to both albums for the past 2 weeks...

and its not a good look for Curtis, when the Intro (which is taken from a movie), is my favorite track on it... I saved 7 out of the 16 Curtis songs to my Itunes (Curtis - 3/5) I saved 9 out of the 13 Graduation songs to Itunes (Graduation - 4.5/5) That Good Life, Champion and Flashing Lights from Kanye is crack.. I liked My Gun and I'll Still Kill (feat. Akon) off Curtis,, but these tracks arent even close to Graduation's level... Bottom line is.. while Kanye Graduated, Curtis needs to go back to school ya diggg

They're both going to "WIN!!!!!"

Promotion, Promotion, Promotion! The hype for these two albums overshadows the hype for all other albums in every genre of music this year combined!!!! Kind of sad if you ask me.......Enough said for real for real! "Let's get one thing clear/ the South's right here/ still got the Grammy for the album of the year/ 12 mill sold, still flyin' on Leers/ over 30 million dollars in the past 3 years/ cuz I gets money, money I got/ the first in the hood wit' the Bentley drop top/ the Jacob goes tick, the Automal goes tock/ fruity pebble diamonds, they say I'm on rockZ/ I get that gwapelay/ own 12 propertays/ only game I play, real life Monopolay/ PROPERLAY/ and ain't no need for apoloGies/ sorry is as sorry does/ follow me cuz" –Ludacris "Let the Champaigne splash, let that man get cash, let that man get passed/ He don't even stop to get gas, if he can move through the rumors he can drive off of fumes cuz/ how he move in a room full of "no's," how he stay faithful in a room full of hoes/ must be the Pharoahes, He in tune wit' his Soul/ so when he buried in a tomb full of gold/ treasure, what's your pleasure?/ life is a uhhh, dependin' how you dress her/ so if the devil where Prada, Adam Eve wear nada, I'm in between but way more fresha/ wit' way less effort/ cuz when you try hard, that's when you die hard" -Kanye West Support the real artists. B-More signin' out...1

why are ya'll still arguing

According to the Boston Herald: "Billboard reported West’s “Graduation” sold 437,000 copies in its first day of sales Tuesday, outselling 50 Cent’s “Curtis” by about 127,000 units." and another article "Early results from iTunes have "Graduation," with 437,000 overall sales, in a clear lead over "Curtis" with 350,000 overall sales. Currently, "Graduation" sits at number one in top albums while "Curtis" is barely in the top ten at number eight. Furthermore, Kanye's new album has already sold out at both Albums on the Hill and the Target at 28th Street in Boulder." Hmmmm looks like 50 Cent is losing right now and will lose by the end of the week unless a miracle happens. Plus Kanye already selling out in stores...the facts are out there Kanye is turning 50 Cent into chump change...it's over for 50 cent

50 will outsell Kanye just

50 will outsell Kanye just because of his fan base!! first album sold 11 million and his second sold 12 million!! right now according to billboard - Graduation" leads with 781,000 units, followed by "Curtis" with 603,000. http://www.spymac.com/details/?2253846
chedda's picture

NOBODY CARES

deez bitches aint gangsta fuck em both ROTTERDAM REPRESENT